Whistlerman

Its been posted everywhere, you can also put this to Fight 93 and the pentagon (missile)

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QuickPro

Those videos are very interesting and bring up some very good points. There's no question that the Twin Towers were hit by two planes on 9/11 so the details of that seem less "conspiratoryish", sure their may have been bombs on the planes, but I really don't think it is possible that the United States Government would have tactically enginerred the destruction of the towers. There's nothing to gain, and Bush is way to stupid to come up with something so elaborate. If there is a conspiracy involved it was done by very, very smart people that have some insane agenda.

The pentagon issue is the one that fries my brain. The whole being too small, no damage to the lawn, no recognizable 747 parts, and penetrating through that kind of reinforced steel. The whole attact on the pentagon seems extremely suspicious to me. The Pentagon is not a huge building like the Twin Towers were, it's way wide but not more then 100 feet high. 747's are freaking huge and I really don't see how it's even logical to assume that a poor pilot could have hit the side of the pentagon flush in the side without even skidding across the ground at all.

With much respect to the victims of 9/11 I would have to say that there is some sort of conspiracy involved. I think that there is a much more likely conspiracy involving the destruction at the pentagon, and a lot less of a possibility of the world trade centers being part of a conspiracy. I mean the video evidence for the Twin Towers is pretty concrete, video from almost every angle, and I don't think different shades on the bottom of a plane is enogh evidence to conclude that they were carrying missiles. My conclusion, the twin towers were victim to terrorist attacts of Islamic Extremists and the attack on the pentagon was set up by the government in the wake of the events in New York. A commercial plane DID NOT hit the side of the Pentagon, and in my opinion it was most likely a long range missile that stayed low and penetrated the side of the pentagon with pin point accuracy. If I am wrong they should release all the video of the Pentagon being hit, I'm sure they have better coverage then a parking lot security camera, IT'S THE FUCKING PENTAGON.

But to the initial question, no. Bush is far to stupid to even begin to conviece something so catastophic (on purpose that is).

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believeITorNOT

im pretty sure ur own eyes...cant catch a fast missile one second before the plane hits! there is a whole bunch of different angles...so think bout it!!! and how does that affend u?

JustMarioBros

I dont care what anybody says, watch the second video he posted. Its about an hour long, but if you watch that video and not believe what he is saying then you just need to fucking die. He proves his point with more than enough evidince. The towers were PLANNED to be taken down with bombs. There is more than enough proof that there were several explosions in the building, 9 SECONDS after the impact of the plane. Explain this, why were there two exploisions on the first and 10th floor exactly 9 seconds after the impact on the 90th FLOOR??

Conspiracy or not, this man has proven his point, and there is no one out there of high authority to prove him wrong.

Watch the 1 hour clip, and PROVE him wrong in this thread. Bombs were planted in those buildings, end of story. The structure of the buildings were certified to take a certain ammount of heat before collapse. The heat caused by the impact of the planes were 1000 degrees below the limit.....

Sometimes, videos like this shouldnt be ignored. This man has done a very good job and i strongly feel like this should be adressed by the government. And if they dont want to awnser any questions and prove themselves right, then you know for a fact they are keeping something.

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About the missle. There was an explosion infron tof the plane, on the building, right before the plane hit. Its true, watcht he video that CNN recorded of the crash, They slow it down. It shows an explosion on the building when the plane is still about 50-100 feet away from the building.

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believeITorNOT

yea thats tru mario...but yea he proved himself right over too much evidence and if ppl still think that the government didnt do it...than i have no clue...cuz it was them....more than enough evidence

JustMarioBros

I dont agree that the goverment did it. I dont think they would try and hurt their own country. But i do believe that the government lied waaaay too much to their ppl. They are keeping way too much to themselves and i believe this is the proof that will make ppl question their government. What else could they have lied about? Who knows? I certainly dont like living in a country full of shit! thats my 2 cents..

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believeITorNOT

its not that im blamin them..its i think and alot of other ppl do...they made it so that bush had a reason to go to war with them...but he really just wanted to get oil...so they could say it was payback when it was only a reason to get oil...

QuickPro

How would questioning the validity and facts of what really happen offend you? This is called critical thinking and with out it we would be no where. One must question what other people say and look at every angle possible before making a decision. Your conclusion is much more ignorant than anyone that is willing to take in what these videos have to say. This report was done professionaly and a lot of time and effort were put into them. Not agreeing with them is one thing, but to call it crap is plane stupid.

By the way, I am willing to look outside of the box in an attempt to educate myself and not sound ignorant like you are. And just because I take the time to listen to what these people have to say doesn't mean that I am stupid or that I don't believe man has landed on the moon. Making claims like that is fucking irritating and you should never consider your own preconcieved notions to be better then anyone elses.

One more thing WE'VE ALL SEEN THE PLANE HIT THE TWIN TOWERS WITH OUR OWN EYES, IT'S CALLED VIDEO!!!

Exactly, so many videos and important information have been with held from the American people. Don't we have a right to know why our country felt justified in bombing another nation? Shouldn't we have some say in this? Just goes to show what a facious Bush is. They say this is a democracy.... sheesh.

Nice post JMB.

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I agree, it really is an hour worth spending.

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SubNoiZe

does the second edition of loose change have the part about the missiles on the planes? *the part that was in the second video?

i havent finished watching the whole video yet.

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