D4rk 4ng31

That's it...fuck it...I'm done...have fun with the fucking site, I'm pulling my vid from my host and you guys can all fuck off...

HeX BLiTz

:S wtf with you

Helljumper

Angel, do not leave..please..You will get everyone from BV to leave, maybe even Irken Idk, just please, whatever problem you have, just tell a God damn moderator or something. If someone is flaming you, you shouldn't take it into your hands to flame back, let a moderator ban them!! Please, at least let me talk to you to try to keep you here...

HeX BLiTz

if angel leaves the forum and so do all the brutal boys then so do i because i liked this forum for the main fact its a chilled atmosphere (unlike h2forum) so angel let us no wats going on
plus the brutal lads are the only people from pdz im gd freinds with and i would feel left out if they wernt here

D4rk 4ng31

I could care less about the flaming, as I'm old enough and good enough at this game to handle it.

What I do not like, is the fact that my montage post was closed because of that fuck Zafier. I am not going to keep putting in time to this community to have it all shat on because of some ungreatful, pathetic, piece of shit 15 year old who thinks he God's gift, but yet is the furthest thing from it. To take critisism from a little punk who can't even do his own work (edit nor photoshop).

Also, to hear shit behind my back from a bunch of kids who think they are great, yet in every game I play with them, I (and the team as well) stomp the shit out of them. You know what I'm talking about (4ng31 - constant bitching and grenade whore, and Irken - who everyone thinks is good because of his vids but is really a dissapointment). Grow some nuts, and come play me 1 V 1, and you'll see the exact same results as what happened to Zafier...all talk, no action.

I'm sick of these rediculous moderator decisions, to close my thread rather than ban the admin's lapdog. I don't really give a fuck how close and "tight" they are, that kid does nothign for this community, yet us, BV, help out in rediculous ammounts...from bringing new members and tons of traffic with our vids.

So there's my position. I'm truely pissed off at a lot of people here. I removed a bunch of you from my friends list for a reason. The vid is down now, and will stay down.

I Hitzel I

Woah. someone's pretty pissed...

Look, the btter you are at something, the more people will be jealous of you for it, and the more they will try to paint a mental picture of themselves being better than you. You and other poeple who are thought of as good.

Think about it, some kid talking behind your back saying "Yea, Irken and Angel aren't so good, blah blah bleh" isn't meant to harm you, it's meant to make themselves look better. It makes them look like they are as good as good players, not that good players are as bad as them. Get my drift?

All of the montage-making players here have gotten negative feedback, as is to b expect with the growing population of immature gamers and gamers who are inexperienced. This is espicially so in FPS's becaue of the popularity of Halo 2. Irken and Dogfish didn't leave, and you have a stronger personality than the both of them. What gives?

I understand you taking your anger out, but don't leave. I for one like this community. I feel as if I am more apart of it than going to most other forums (at least ones having to do with gaming) and I'll be damned if HJ's predicction comes true, and all of BV leaves and the site dies.

So re-think things Chris. Don't fuck us over, us meaning your friends here who have always supported you.

ThePanzerGnome

well i dont know you or played with you, but i think youre cool anyhows, and that would suck if cool people left this site, youre not going to let one 15 year old make you leave the site are you. if he has a problem try getting a moderator to sort it out. ive only just joined the forum and it would be a shame if all the cool people before i got to know them or play with them.

D4rk 4ng31

I just got your FR last night so I hope to get some games in with you.

But it's not the fact that a 15 year old is doing it, it's the fact that he's an ass to everyone, therefore pushing people away rather than bringing them in. It's just something I would pay attention to if I was in charge...but my suggestions don't mean shit here.

HeX BLiTz

the people that bother making montages for new and regular members off this forum to watch do not deserve the shit from players that do not put anything into the comunity if you don tlike the montage and/or the music for example then tuff shit to b honest
i make montages bcoz i enjoy doing it and hope that people in this comunity enjoy watching them
i would not expect crap talk from people if i am one off the very few that bother to make montages for people to watch.
i mean pdz is not a competitive game in the sense that halo2 is
i dont no about everyone here but if i enjoy just playing this game no matter if im beeing raped like shit or rapeing others its a fun game so y should we let a small amount off people bring the shit over to this game from halo2?????

TheAssassin419

I personally think Angel has over-reacted. Flame war as as equally due to his repsonse as it was due to Zafiers bitter comments. And not once, but multiple times has he done this, as has been pointed out.

I do, however, feel that these forums have not been very welcoming at all for Brutal Vindication or the series of other video hosters who have had their vids here. To date, our clan has made and posted 7 or 8 videos ranging from map tours to gameplays to montages. I'd say 3 or 4 of these threads degenerated into flame fests thanks to children posting shit which had no business being posted. The others were met only with greed. Take the map tour for example (Old Town...With my commentary). All of the feedback was "COOL!, but make one of Urban next!" or "Yeah, I already knew that map". No-one shows any appreciation for the services provided.

I don't mean to sound self-centered, but at least 15-25 % of the videos on this site come from us and old time forum members are still talking shit behind our backs and on these forums themselves. Very few people on these forums actually realise the amount of work and time which goes into every video posted here, and everyone takes it for granted and see's them as reflections of the player who made them. People who have never played with us, never spoken with us, have been seen posting negative things about us. Word of mouth? Doubtful, we are all very nice people to play with, aside from those few who choose to make us their enemies.

It is funny, I started off on these forums and quickly we grew into a mutual enemy with Cobalt, but now I think they have more sense and class than any of the stupid fucks who are posting here now. We've talked in chats every now and then each week and discussed leaving PDZForum. Now that we have a host, I feel it is time we leave the idiots here behind and concentrate on playing the game and talking with people who show mutual respect and appreciation of the things we do.