Tom

And now that makes me wonder, will it actually be possible than in the future where still going to use machine guns and rockets? The Plasma Rifle would probably be built before Halo (I'd say about around the year 2400 in Halo's case).

ph0bUs is SiK

ok i'll admit that halo 2 is really big cuz of the multiplayer, but halo 1 was just as big w/out multiplayer so explain that. and about the frame rate! u have to be kidding. were u playin the same halo 2 as everyone else? and the physics!? i take it u've played PDZ, and the physics in that game, oh yeah wait there is none!

P Pierce34

Your arguement about young players playing well makes no sense. Your arguement about gigantic reticles makes no sense. You think it is harder to aim in PDZ??? That is hilarious! Try this, when you spawn never look up or down and keep the reticle centered. You will get a head shot every time, it is ridiculously easy to aim and kill in PDZ and all players in Halo 2 get autoaim so it absolutely does not make it easier for one player to kill another. Apparently I know more about Halo2sucks.com than you do smartypants because that website compares Halo 2 to Halo 1. It has NOTHING to do with other games. Come back when you have some valid arguements.

session 9ine

play halo2, when you get bored of that pop in pdz

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Halo 1 was big because its story was great, and the multiplayer was balanced. The Graphics in halo 2 are greater than in halo 1 but incase you havent noticed when too many things are on the screen at once, or you play split screen the game will slow down and look slightly fuzzy.And Physics are not just jumping, It is every aspect of the game that has to do with almost everything. Please dont treat it like a flame war.
About younger players, people that are under the age of 10 have less developed braines and they dont think as well as adults do. So in turn they mostly play easy games because they cant do all the things required for some games (i.e. Skill) When you sit your little brother/sister down to play mario do you set it on Hard diffaculty? no you set it on easy, and most the time you cant seem to teach them how to play right. My 11 year old sister who usually playes animal crossing could play halo 2 all the way through the campaign on heroic after learning the controls. That is because of the auto aim helper that makes it so you dont have to be precise with wepons, also with guns like the SMG (Spray and pray) it is easy to be successful with. I am not saying that it is unfair to have autoaim, i am saying it is too fair As in everyone who trys can do just as good as a seasoned vet at halo 2, there is no way to become good enough in h2 to kill someone with an smg in close range without loseing most your shields, no matter how bad they are. In halo 2 you spawn with a close range weapon, there are mostly close range weapons on the map and most levels are long range baised! I understand your frustration with PDZ, but the reason you dont like it is because its not halo 2, so dont get mad because its not halo 2 be happy that they release more games so you arent stuck with halo 2.

Dr Vess

Ok- how many people have bought an xbox for halo (hundreds of thousands)
how many would buy a 360 for PDZ....... enough said. what many people are looking past is that H2 was made for a system that is an old granny compared to the 360 but yet it kicked @$$ in a way that caused me and thousands like me to buy an xbox. So now we're here arguing how PDZ is just a little better- Well we'd all like to hope that taking in consideration the new system they can use it seems like it'd be light years ahead of halo2.....but is it?

I notice many of you posting play in the pro realm- well I'm in the R&R realm and I play with 7-8 friends 2-3 times a week- so basically I'm in a clan tat plays for the fun of it together (we're competitive, but also relaxed when need be) so PDZ frustrates me in that we can all play against bots but, I'd like to get into ranked games together in a fairly easy fashion and have yet to figure that out. hopefully Rare will clear this all up for us in a press release soon!

But as many ofyou are in the pro realm- on the 360 with pdz, COD2 and when H3 comes out- hopefully few kiddies will come play in your realm and it seems that many like myself will ave to leave the R&R realm to get away from the kiddos

I agree- it seems wrong that a 9 yr old owns me in a sniper match in H2- but once again- seeing the system that H2 was created on- I think it worked extremely well, and look for these things to be improved greatly upon in H3.

2 final thoughts of whether H2 is as great or greater than PDZ
1) would peter jackson actually direct a PDZ film??????
2) will you play pdz and only pdz for over a full year (like many of us did H2)?

I rest my case...

P Pierce34

Then why don't all Halo 2 players have a rank of 50 in all playlists? If what you say is correct they would. Enough said, but I'll say a little more. When you get above 30 in team slayer you rarely run into little kids who yell and scream. Why don't you work on your skills and try to go for the head with your smg and maybe you could get a better rank than your little sister and not have to be matched up with people her age. Actually I don't see what the big deal about playing with young people is anyway, if they start acting up mute them.

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Ok I will make simple statements that will make it eseier to understand.
1. Halo 1 is/was a revolution in comsol FPS's and had one of the best multiplayer systems ever. (MLG was created to host H1 turnaments and now millions of people play in the turneys)
2. Halo 2 had a good campaign, good graphics, and the most revolurionalry xbox live system to this day. But to people that had played H1 professionally it just wasent as good, or the same.
3. PDZ Is fun challenging and one of the best 360 games thus released. People seem to already be excided alot about it.

To put it simply these games are getting compaired soooo much that it makes you dissapointed when you play them! So please think of every game in itself not in its predecessor because then you will only be dissapointed again and again. Case closed, no more, lets stop fighting over which game is better.

P Pierce34

Yes, those are very "simple" statements. I'm glad you admitted that I am right though.

D4rk 4ng31

Yep, he's right...after you get to level 30, you jardly play kids anymore...but what you get is worse...cheaters.

I'd rather play little kids that yell at each other than see people jumping hundreds of feet in the air, who are unkillable that have fully automatic BR's that never need reloaded...

O man, you're so right...and all along I thought the kids playing were the real problem...lol

Halo 2 was dumbed down ALOT from the first one. You know why? So they could sell more. What would happen if all those 6 million people got their game home on the 9th of last year, and it was exactly the same as CE? THe newbies would have been getting owned consistantly and probably not playing the game anymore...but then again, thats how all GOOD FPS are (CS, CE, PDZ, R6...)

PDZ owns Halo 2. That's all there is to it. And I'll be glad to argue this with anyone on this site...