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Old 07-18-2006
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Default *astronomy* What are the ramifications of going back in time?

Well, apparantly, if we go back in time, we can screw some shit up. We can affect what happens in the future. But what exactly is happeneing?

My idea is either, we open up a new universe where the current future is already taking place.

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When you go back in time, its a one way trip, thus it doesn't matter about fucking shit up in the past(remember that pic i had about how the universe works, imagine that going back, and then its put on play again, just a different story line now)

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You cant go back in time, any possible close attempt to do so would make a rupture in the universe, making existance siece to exist.(oo now thats confusing)
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Well, apparantly, if we go back in time, we can screw some shit up. We can affect what happens in the future. But what exactly is happeneing?
I honestly don't know how to answer your question, considering I have little or no background on Astronomy or Space.. But there's been no replys so I'll give it a go.

I don't quite understand your question so bare with me here L1nk.. I'm not quite getting to WHY we have to just jump right into the future.. Couldn't we just speed time up really fast some how? And if we could, where is the future located? You know what I mean? Is the future ALREADY out there somewhere? If so.. Is there a way to see the future before putting our foot in first? Risking what there might be? What if we go to far into the Future, and it's nothing.. There some brain teasers for you.


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making existance siece to exist.
Completely? Making life as we know it non-existant? Wouldn't they defy the laws of Christianity in some ways? Taking every single known life form and making it non-existant.

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oo now thats confusing
Very confusing, lol.
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Maybe once I get older or feel like taking out my theory paper, I'll answer you.
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I'm bored, so I'll debate!

Time is a perception.

If I experience something, or something experiences me. That is a moment.
A moment begins and ends with the notice and dismissal of those perceptions.
We perceive mostly with our senses, so it is possible to "travel" through time, by replicating or fabricating (fooling) our senses. But this isn't true time travel, we are simply creating new experiences based on past moments.

Like with Deja Vu. Which I believe occurs when we experience nearly identical perceptions as in a past moment. Deja Vu is as close as we get to time travel. Even if the perceptions were identical, the new moment would be altered by current perceptions and sensory input.

Basically time doesn't exist, beyond this moment, in either direction.
In order to accomplish our concept of time travel, all the factors would have to be perfectly duplicated. Perception, sensory input, memory, etc. Even then, it would be a sole experience.
An observer would not recognize it, and an outside source could not partake in it. It would all be in your head. We wouldn't call this time travel however, we'd consider it an altered mental state.

So basically you can't travel through time, only re-experience it.
There would be no rift in the universe and no ramnifications other than on a personal level.
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we cant go back in time because if we could, someone from the future would ahve already come to the present now and informed us
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my belief is that wen u go in time its like pressing a reset button on everything that happens after the time we reach. thus changing the future greatly or slightly. i read a short story iin 7th grade for english class and the guy lives in 2100. they find ways to go back in time and hunt dinosaurs, but they can only kill ones that r going to die from a natural cause so that they dont effect the future, they even set up floatin trails so nobody steps on ne thing important. one guy falls off the trail cus hes scared of T-rex,, and steps on a butter fly. wen they get back to the future they find out that the entire alphabet has changed, people live in trees, and america is a weird named comunist country instead of a democracy.
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These ramifications are all based on choas theory, a butterfly flaps its wings in africa, theres a hurricane in america. It just shows that later on in the future sum shit will change.

Ricochet, i think your idea is a bit to narrow minded, we can infact accelerate time so that we can go into the future, but u cannot see it. But going into the past is way different, from how i kno it, universe is a one way trip, unless its a portal that would lead u back in time.



So yea, we're not talking about the future here, the future is a easier concept to understand, going back in time on the other hand, now thats a reallll bitch.


so as i said, lets discuss
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we cant go back in time because if we could, someone from the future would ahve already come to the present now and informed us
Not exactly. Maybe we are the future and there is no one ahead of us, what if we were the first to visit the past? Maybe it's not even the past but it's acually the future, you would never know.
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my belief is that wen u go in time its like pressing a reset button on everything that happens after the time we reach. thus changing the future greatly or slightly. i read a short story iin 7th grade for english class and the guy lives in 2100. they find ways to go back in time and hunt dinosaurs, but they can only kill ones that r going to die from a natural cause so that they dont effect the future, they even set up floatin trails so nobody steps on ne thing important. one guy falls off the trail cus hes scared of T-rex,, and steps on a butter fly. wen they get back to the future they find out that the entire alphabet has changed, people live in trees, and america is a weird named comunist country instead of a democracy.
lesson-never step on butterflies.
Well, I think you got the right idea, although that is a little TOO much of a egzaberesation ( spelling, lol )... Stepping on a butterfly won't change humanity... Anyways, nobody has answered my question! Why would we want to go into the future anyways? What if it's a horrible place? AND what if we go to far into the future some how.. And end up in.... Nothing?
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