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Old 06-07-2007
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And how do you legislate if every individual abortion is right or not? As of now, abortion has a high price tag. That alone moderates abortion practice, so people don't tend to get them if they don't need them.
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Angel, I think Hammer may have come off as more of a prick than he wanted to. I don't think he really meant to say that you're a bad person or unfit to be a father or even that you don't value life. I think he was trying to point out the differences in where he's coming from and where you're coming from. Hammer's had at least one child, you haven't had any. That little fact is bound to change your perception of children or the possibility of children. Basically, even if you both agreed on whether or not abortion is right, you would both have different perceptions of the matter.

To be honest, I know this topic causes us to get very caught up in our own opinions and your comments are absolutely correct, I was not trying to say that anyone was unfit or doesnt deserve to have children. My whole point throughout this entire discussion is motivated by my deep love for my own 2 children and how they have enriched my life more than anything else in this world could ever do. When I was younger, my veiws and opinions were different than they are today - that was before my children ( a living part of me) became part of my very existence. You all will see one day, when your children become part of your life. Many of your current personal convictions, interests, and phylosophies will change - I promise you they will. I apologize if I have offended anyone in particular, that was not my intention.

To angel, I wish the best for you in life, and if that includes children, wonderful. I do not foster any ill will towards you as a person and respect your opinion although I completely disagree with it. Im not sure what the "no name" comment was all about unless you are some sort of celebrity that I am not aware of? But be that as it may, at 23 you still have alot of living to do. When you are 45 (my age) lets agree to have this conversation again and see if either of us has had a change of heart. Until then, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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man hammer would be my pick....all that crap he's got himself and jackel...sub and irken would have to join together as subken...then maybe, JUST MAYBE! they could overthrow the mighty Hammer!
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You think in the olden days there was rape? NOPE! Now we have all these fuckin weirdos.
While I agree that abortion is wrong, I just want to point out that the human race has ALWAYS had wierdos. Rape has been going on for way too long. There are two differences between now and then though. Back then, it happened and no one talked about it in many instances. Women had no freedom then. For instance, many slave owners raped their slaves and no one ever said a word about it. Another difference is that in the instances or societies did acknowledge rape the punishments were alot more severe. Back in the day, pretty much everything was punishable by death or loss of limb.
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And how do you legislate if every individual abortion is right or not? As of now, abortion has a high price tag. That alone moderates abortion practice, so people don't tend to get them if they don't need them.
I don't know about that high price tag. There are prostitutes in the south side of chicago that have sex and 9 months later go to some back alley doctor (that didnt even pass high school) and get an abortion with a cloths hanger for $10. This kinda thing needs to stop. We should work towards a world where we dont need abortion.
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And just to be sure people know where I'm coming from, I'm all for abortion. I just had to through out that "clusters of cells" are not just "clusters if cells, but they are cells that contain life. So abortion is essentially killing a life, before it fully develops into a human infant.
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...but you formed your "opinion" from posts on a video game board. Like I said previously, that's a great ground to form an opinion on.
My opinion on this topic of debate was formed before you or this forum ever existed.
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Only reason hammer has nice things is because hewnis a lot of debates I bet
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Only reason hammer has nice things is because hewnis a lot of debates I bet
lol...thus declaring hammer the winner of this debate...

I still hate southerners though....I bet ur republican hammer.
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lol...thus declaring hammer the winner of this debate...

I still hate southerners though....I bet ur republican hammer.
Registered Democrat since 1980 my boy! Youre just jealous of us Southern Boys! And we dont care much for Damn Yankees neither!
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