Best RPG Ever - Page 11

xl Optimous lx · 08-23-2007

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A role-playing game (RPG; often roleplaying game) is a game in which the participants assume the roles of fictional characters and collaboratively create or follow stories. Participants determine the actions of their characters based on their characterization, and the actions succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines. Within the rules, players can improvise freely; their choices shape the direction and outcome of the games.
A role-playing game rarely has winners or losers. That makes role-playing games fundamentally different from board games, card games, sports and most other types of games. Role-playing games are typically more collaborative and social than competitive.[1] A typical role-playing game unifies its participants into a single team, known as a "party", that plays as a group. Like serials or novel sequences, these episodic games are often played in weekly sessions over a period of months or even years, although some gamers prefer playing one session games.

thats the definition of a RPG the one i go by and the one that should stop the arguments. And angel after you read that you will see that WoW is a RPG. hence best RPG and this should be in the debate section.

Brutal 4ngel · 08-23-2007

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Originally Posted by xl Optimous lx

thats the definition of a RPG the one i go by and the one that should stop the arguments. And angel after you read that you will see that WoW is a RPG. hence best RPG and this should be in the debate section.

I never said it wasn't an RPG; I clarified that under specific genre, it's a MMORPG. Obviously you didn't get that, as there are many types of RPG (MMORPG, JRPG, WRPG, Action-RPG, etc...)

And yes, it basically is a debate now, but a debate fueled by opinions, and no real facts beyond sales numbers, which to not attribute to how good a game is. Case in point, Final Fantasy X-2. Terrible game, yet sold staggering numbers.

Dark SoliloQuy · 08-23-2007

omg i hated FF X-2. to me WoW is basically a MMORPGRTS, lol. seriously, just because of sales and a couple video game magazines say something is better doesnt mean it is. just because there are millions of Fanboy's for one game doesnt mean its better (halo for example). i have my own view of what is a "classic/pure RPG" and WoW and oblivion, or zelda dont fall into that category for me.

FyousesGodly · 08-24-2007

i dont play very many RPGs but one i loved was dark cloud 2 for ps2.. simply amazing

Nunyaa · 08-24-2007

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Originally Posted by Dark SoliloQuy

at least that argument is more valid than the way he was saying it, but i still don't agree.

Thats because you have a bad case of nostalgia man. Just because an rpg doesnt have a menu based combat system does not mean it isnt an rpg, it just means it has no menu based combat system. and your getting all worked up and having to clarify wow as an MMORPG when in fact it doesnt matter at all. why you ask? because it is STILL AN RPG. the same goes for this 'true rpg' you speak of. if you want a true rpg go play the text based games because thats as true as you're gonna get. just because the FF games pioneered rpg's doesnt make them the standard to compare to, but you are because thats what you must have grown up with and miss.

you are basing your definition of an rpg on your own personal experience, basically saying that because the games you played are older, and the pioneering rpg's, they are the definition of rpg. that is incorrect and very short sighted.

yes oblivion is an rpg, yes wow is an rpg. i would have to agree with you that the zelda games are not an rpg and more action though.

Dark SoliloQuy · 08-24-2007

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Originally Posted by Nunyaa

Thats because you have a bad case of nostalgia man. Just because an rpg doesnt have a menu based combat system does not mean it isnt an rpg, it just means it has no menu based combat system. and your getting all worked up and having to clarify wow as an MMORPG when in fact it doesnt matter at all. why you ask? because it is STILL AN RPG. the same goes for this 'true rpg' you speak of. if you want a true rpg go play the text based games because thats as true as you're gonna get. just because the FF games pioneered rpg's doesnt make them the standard to compare to, but you are because thats what you must have grown up with and miss.

you are basing your definition of an rpg on your own personal experience, basically saying that because the games you played are older, and the pioneering rpg's, they are the definition of rpg. that is incorrect and very short sighted.

yes oblivion is an rpg, yes wow is an rpg. i would have to agree with you that the zelda games are not an rpg and more action though.

wow, how do i have a case of nostalgia and how do i miss the FF games, i still have them! lol im so done with this thread, its hopeless.

Nunyaa · 08-24-2007

Maybe not missing the games themselves, but missing the experience they gave you. but let me tell you something, you will never have that expierence again, because if they were your first rpg's you will never recapture that no matter how hard you try.

Dark SoliloQuy · 08-24-2007

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Originally Posted by Nunyaa

Maybe not missing the games themselves, but missing the experience they gave you. but let me tell you something, you will never have that expierence again, because if they were your first rpg's you will never recapture that no matter how hard you try.

its not about recapturing what i felt, cuz if it was, it has been done again recently, ever play the kingdom hearts games? the same feelings and emotions the first FF's i ever played arent the only games that capture those feelings and "nostalgia" u speak of. its not about that, and thats not what im basing my opinion on. hell even playing shadowrun and GoW give me a certain nostalgia of competition and certain emotions i totally zone out, its not about the feelings the games give u , thats an entirely different discussion, you can get lost in the story of so many games, im just looking at all of the elements of the game, "the combat system", leveling up, etc... etc...

Nunyaa · 08-24-2007

really? all ive seen you rant about is the combat system. that is about the least most deciding factor of whether or not a game is an rpg yet the way you have been posting, it is the only deciding factor. just because oblivion has combat in real time doesnt make it not an rpg. thats idiocy.

Dark SoliloQuy · 08-24-2007

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Originally Posted by Nunyaa

really? all ive seen you rant about is the combat system. that is about the least most deciding factor of whether or not a game is an rpg yet the way you have been posting, it is the only deciding factor. just because oblivion has combat in real time doesnt make it not an rpg. thats idiocy.

ur a fuckin moron, a real time combat system does not make a RPG, it makes it an action adventure game, a menu based combat system makes it a RPG. of course there are hyrbrids, and i can agree like in one of my early posts that oblivion would be a hybrid " action adventure/rpg" but its not a true rpg. there are many deciding factors as to what makes a rpg, oblivion and the FF games share much, like leveling up and what not, but the menu based combat system is what pushes it to be a rpg and why oblivion is not. remember thats my opinion so if you dont like it, shove it up ur ass