Best RPG Ever - Page 5

Dark SoliloQuy · 08-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Heineken

Thats the same as saying that a FPS and a TPS arent both shooters.

that could be argued, lol, but im not going to.

Brutal 4ngel · 08-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Heineken

Thats the same as saying that a FPS and a TPS arent both shooters.

Oblivion is an action game. While it might feature RPG elements, at it's core, it's a first person action game. Sure, you might level up in the game, but so do you in Crackdown...would you consider Crackdown an RPG? No, of course you wouldn't. You can throw it under the "Action RPG" genre if you'd like, but to the purists, it won't be considered an RPG.

It's the fact that a lot of people in here have never played "real" RPG's, as I said before, most of you are too young. KOTR was a decent game, but far from best RPG ever. It's scary to see that what, only 5 people have mentioned FF before 7, and only 2-3 people have mentioned Chrono Trigger..it's actually sad to be honest.

Dark SoliloQuy · 08-07-2007

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Originally Posted by 4ng31

Oblivion is an action game. While it might feature RPG elements, at it's core, it's a first person action game. Sure, you might level up in the game, but so do you in Crackdown...would you consider Crackdown an RPG? No, of course you wouldn't. You can throw it under the "Action RPG" genre if you'd like, but to the purists, it won't be considered an RPG.

It's the fact that a lot of people in here have never played "real" RPG's, as I said before, most of you are too young. KOTR was a decent game, but far from best RPG ever. It's scary to see that what, only 5 people have mentioned FF before 7, and only 2-3 people have mentioned Chrono Trigger..it's actually sad to be honest.

another one, at least cater, and 4ng31 know what the hell im talkin about.....i knew about chrono trigger, loved the game, but just imo, i loved playing FF7, i remember the bus rides in middle school when we would talk about chrono trigger and where to go and what to do, lol, good times.

Brutal 4ngel · 08-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Dark SoliloQuy

another one, at least cater, and 4ng31 know what the hell im talkin about.....i knew about chrono trigger, loved the game, but just imo, i loved playing FF7, i remember the bus rides in middle school when we would talk about chrono trigger and where to go and what to do, lol, good times.

Shit, you wanna talk about Old School, I remember playing Dragon Warrior, the original, on NES. You guys might be more familiar with it as Dragon Quest. Hell, I still have Final Fantasy I on NES somewhere...along with all the original FF games on Gameboy (black and white)...those games were amazing. If you can find them, I'd highly recommend buying them.

As for VII...I tend to stay away from this argument, as it usually becomes heated very fast. VII made RPG's mainstream, and even today is one of the most influent games in video gaming history. It set a lot of standards for how an RPG should look (Cut-Scene's, emotive scenes within the game...hell, people will actually admit to crying during the Aerith death scene...before that game, that was something I've never seen done).

Dark SoliloQuy · 08-07-2007

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Originally Posted by 4ng31

Shit, you wanna talk about Old School, I remember playing Dragon Warrior, the original, on NES. You guys might be more familiar with it as Dragon Quest. Hell, I still have Final Fantasy I on NES somewhere...along with all the original FF games on Gameboy (black and white)...those games were amazing. If you can find them, I'd highly recommend buying them.

As for VII...I tend to stay away from this argument, as it usually becomes heated very fast. VII made RPG's mainstream, and even today is one of the most influent games in video gaming history. It set a lot of standards for how an RPG should look (Cut-Scene's, emotive scenes within the game...hell, people will actually admit to crying during the Aerith death scene...before that game, that was something I've never seen done).

see thats the thing, im guilty of loving that first mainstream FF, lol, by all means you are so right, FF VII did make it mainstream, and was so influencial, and i know some ppl that cried during the aerith death scene, lol. OMG the old black and white ones, wow i need to get those, good days man, back when gaming was GAMING.

AbnormalSalmon · 08-07-2007

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Originally Posted by Dark SoliloQuy

in one of my previous posts i also stated that oblivion was an action/adventure RPG but none of you decided to read that post huh? Oblivion is not a CLASSIC RPG its not a RPG its an ACTION/ADVENTURE RPG. its useless i swear.

Then why not get even more technical and say that none of the Final Fantasy games are true RPG's? because technically they are not, they are CRPG’s (Computer Role Playing Games). The real RPG’s would then be the table top games, or the pen and paper ones right? How come no one mentions that? It’s because most people here grew up with all the traditional turn based Japanese games and think of them as classic.

Like I said before the term RPG has evolved before and became a whole different beast. And guess what it happened again. Your right that it’s a action RPG but it’s just as much as an RPG as any final fantasy game. All the damage you do and take is governed by stats just like most other RPG’s out there. Hell, the only difference is you manually press the button to attack and defend instead of selecting it from a menu.

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Originally Posted by 4ng31

Oblivion is an action game. While it might feature RPG elements, at it's core, it's a first person action game. Sure, you might level up in the game, but so do you in Crackdown...would you consider Crackdown an RPG? No, of course you wouldn't. You can throw it under the "Action RPG" genre if you'd like, but to the purists, it won't be considered an RPG.

It's the fact that a lot of people in here have never played "real" RPG's, as I said before, most of you are too young. KOTR was a decent game, but far from best RPG ever. It's scary to see that what, only 5 people have mentioned FF before 7, and only 2-3 people have mentioned Chrono Trigger..it's actually sad to be honest.

Crackdown has RPG elements but I agree that it’s not an RPG. But in Crackdown the damage you do is not very dependent on your stats or your characters abilities. In Oblivion most of your attacks are based on what your wearing, what your weapon is, any buffs that you may have, and your level. The game should not be compared to Crackdown or any game like that. Crackdown is an action game with minor RPG elements while Oblivion is a RPG with action elements.

You can still find the RPG’s you consider “real” anywhere. Companies still put them out in the hope of inspiring some old school nostalgic feel. Blue Dragon is old school in a way just updated with newer gen features.

And I’ve played through Final Fantasy 1 through 3 before (going back though 3 as we speak on my DS) but I didn’t mention them simply because they no longer hold up. They still are good games but most of the older games are arcane compared to what we have now. Really the only thing they are good for now is nostalgic purposes. It’s sort of like saying Goldeneye is still the best shooter ever made.

P.S: I’m curious 4ng31... What makes a “true” rpg for you?

t h e do0rs · 08-17-2007

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Originally Posted by Dark SoliloQuy

i did play Morrowind, and i still dont think its a RPG, it had a real time combat system, meaning that you press the button and it attacks immediately. to me that is not a RPG. just because it has SOME RPG elements does not make the game a rpg, i think the big think is the menu based combat system, thats what really makes a game a RPG. imo

RPG = Role Playing Game

Just because u can run up and attack someone with one person doesnt make it a adventure game , so long as u can switch between different characters \ roles.

theres my opinion

Dark SoliloQuy · 08-17-2007

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Originally Posted by t h e do0rs

RPG = Role Playing Game

Just because u can run up and attack someone with one person doesnt make it a adventure game , so long as u can switch between different characters \ roles.

theres my opinion

yea good argument there buddy........................SIKE!!!!!! ok seriously though, you honestly need to read all of my posts and my definitions of RPG, thats fine that you have your opinion about what an RPG is but in the way you are thinking that means all games are RPG's, so basically your opinion is wrong, im sorry.

Octavion · 08-17-2007

Final Fantasy 1 & 8 are my favorite RPGS, and then it's WoW.

Daven133 · 08-17-2007

i really dont see wats so great about WoW i played it and it got old fast